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Post by Germany - Ludwig Wilhelm on Aug 12, 2016 7:44:13 GMT -5
Germany purses his lips in thought at the way that Italy describes his teaching. He's not offended by it - in fact, he regards that assessment as being extremely truthful from the Italian's perspective. From his own perspective, he's found that he needs to be harsh to get any results at all so he won't apologize or regret any of it. In fact, after Italy's description, his response is to say, "So you're saying that I need to try harder." He says it as a statement, not a question.
But even more importantly, he needs to convince the Italian that advancing the front is a good idea. Or at least that the idea isn't so bad that it's worth fighting against. He listens patiently as his friend lists off all the reasons why it's a bad idea, his face impassive as he takes mental notes. Most of the concerns mentioned are trivial to him, but he understands that they're important to Italy so he'll not simply dismiss them.
Still, because they are trivial they are easy to address. "First, I knov that it vill be a huge logistics challenge - I enjoy huge logistics challenges! And I'm not bad at them - or at least I don't think so," he starts, "But that is vhy I am here to help you instead of sending you orders. Ve can do it together." Well, that and to make sure that the orders are actually followed instead of ignored.
"And second, defending Israel is the least of our troubles. Is it not important to you to defend your ovn lands? Yes, ve are holding the front line in Europe, but it's a struggle - for nov ve are holding on, but I can't promise that if ve all keep doing vhat ve are doing that ve vill be able to keep holding on. But if ve start a nev offensive here, they vill be forced to use many resources to defend themselves here. Resources that they vould othervise send to Europe. So an offensive here vould be helping keep both of our lands safe. And may even help us move forvard in Europe, helping lead to the end of the var. And the end of the var is an even better goal than defending Israel, don't you think?" he adds.
Then he has to pause for a moment, trying to remember Italy's increasingly trivial objections. "Ah, and ve knov vhat is on the other side of the desert - ve have maps and spy planes, after all. On the other side of the desert is Iran. And I'm not too vorried about getting tanks there - tanks usually don't have very much trouble vith sand as long as you maintain them properly. But if ve need to, ve have other kinds of vehicles that can fill in for tanks - that von't be a problem," he reassures.
But then his manner becomes more grave as he continues, "As for the pasta, gelato, and booze - nothing threatens the supplies of those things more than the Joint Pact in Europe, so ve must pull as much of their attention avay from there as possible. If ve do not, ve may have to face a day vhen ve have none of those things. Also, I vill do my best to factor keeping us vell supplied into the logistics of the advance." And he suspects that's a sufficient way to address that problem.
"Also, I hope that our valk through the desert is boring - that means that ve're not being attacked. But I am remembering that keeping up the morale of the soldiers is an important part of the logistics too - I'm sure ve can find vays to keep ourselves entertained," he says confidently. Or, more accurately, Italy will find ways to keep himself entertained - Germany, as anyone might have noticed, is not especially concerned about keeping himself entertained. Mostly because planning out strategies is entertainment enough for him - and there's a lot of that to do. "And this vould not be the first time or the last time that I kept you avay from alcohol," he adds with almost a sigh - that's not the most pleasant of tasks.
And as for Italy's last point, he says, "And vhat are you talking about - no ladies? There are beautiful Arab vomen living in every tovn and village betveen here and Iran - and the ones in Iraq are quite likely to be very, very happy vith is for freeing them from the Joint Pact. And I hear that the ones in Iran are very conservative - and you knov vhat they say about conservative ladies..."
Let's see, was that everything? Yes it was. So he adds, "In conclusion, not attacking nov vould be a very, very bad idea. There are a lot of good reasons to do it, and though of course there vill be problems, they vill not be problems that ve cannot handle. Also, I cannot do it vithout you - I only brought a few men because I can't spare any more - the rest are busy defending Europe." But now he gives Italy almost a challenging look - because he just addressed every objection that his friend could think of to raise, so unless he has not just more but better ones he's out of excuses.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 6:01:30 GMT -5
Italy had been expecting the German to give up after his fake analysis of Germany's training. To be quite honest Italy had indeed learnt some new things, while training and being taught by Germany, despite the fact he was already military trained the Italian way it was great to know some German alternatives to problems. While the blond man's training was insightful it was... unbearably strict and cruel, the slightest mistake could lead to... undesirable events. Germany's response caught the Italian off guard... he had only been planning for Germany to reduce the strictness not make it worse!!! "AH!!!" the shorter man screamed with his arms waving everywhere as if he was doing a dance, "Did I say that? No, I was only joking!!! Your training is great!!! But can you allow pasta and siesta breaks in between?" Italy unlike Germany thought that the blond was giving a question and not a statement.
Italy maybe should not have started with the logistics challenge... He knew how Germany liked puzzles, why would he start with something like that!!! "Hehe... Yay."
The way Germany worded his answer this time wasn't that good. To Italy, Germany could do anything! And America and all those other strong countries were there as well, he was sure they could hold on to Eastern Europe! "Nah, you guys have so many guns they will never be able to get through! I know you'll find a way Germany!" I mean, he had stopped the Joint Pact here.
"Ve~ but spy planes can get blown to pieces, KABOOM!" As the Italian made nuclear explosion shapes with his hands. It was good if the tanks could go into the desert, but if they couldn't, Italy could look cool while driving down the Tehran, in a Ferrari... He'll have to organize that.
But then the German's next answer truly frightened the Italian. "Wuh, pasta supply... Mio Dio! Do what you can Germany please!!!!! I can't live without my pasta and alcohol!!!!"
Germany was right... He could screw around while marching through the desert! But then that was when the happy thoughts died. "WHAT!!!!!!!!!! NO! PLEASE GERMANY I'M BEGGING YOU!!!!! YOU CAN TAKE MY CAR OR MY ARMY!!!!!! BUT NOT MY ALCOHOL!!!!!!!!" The Italian then preceded to roll on the floor as if he was tossing and turning in a bed. "How could you be so cruel!!!!!!!!!!!"
As soon as Germany mention "Beautiful Arab vomen living in every tovn and village betveen here and Iran". The Italian had run outside hastily dressed in his blue military uniform (despite missing the jacket) He called out to a soldier: "Prepare my tank and tell the men to begin attacking!!! We are invading Iran right now!!!!!!!!!"
Italy was going to liberate those Arab women!!!! And no one in the world was going to stop him, they were to attack immediately into the desert. They wouldn't need much supplies, it would be over in three days!!!!
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Post by Germany - Ludwig Wilhelm on Aug 22, 2016 20:52:39 GMT -5
Pasta and siesta breaks during training? The very idea! "Nein!" he snaps firmly, as he is more prone to do when they're actually training. Though he was actually joking when he said that he would try harder - not that he meant for Italy to take it as one. No, he just didn't like hearing such criticism of his training, and he knew that indicating that he would make it worse would get that reaction, and that reaction has made him feel better.
As for the objections that he just addressed, his first response seems to have gone down fine. But when Italy next expresses so much faith in him, he feels the need to give his friend a bit of a reality check. So he quietly reminds, "I didn't find a vay last vorld var..." Yes, Germany knows that he's good at war, and sometimes he'll even admit it to himself or others, but he's also extremely aware that he's fallible, and very much so. He doesn't deserve anyone's blind faith - not even Italy's.
Now the spy planes, of course Italy has a point. However, Germany isn't lying when he says, "That doesn't usually happen." After all, spy planes are designed for subtlety and they're very good at that. And the loss of one spy plane is just that - one plane. A tragic loss, but then again there's more where that came from.
When Italy starts to throw a fit about being denied alcohol, Germany's response is a confident, "I can, and I vill. Because like you said, you need to be sober." Of course, that's due to the effect of alcohol on the Italian. His friend makes poor enough decisions as it is, and alcohol doesn't help. Germany, on the other hand, finds that he fights best when he's just a little bit buzzed - enough to take the edge off of his nerves but not enough to impair him very much.
But in retrospect, perhaps Germany should have simply started by talking about the women. That certainly seems to do the trick as far as convincing the Italian what the best course of action should be. But on the other hand, as difficult as it can be to convince Italy of something, once he's convinced he's still hard to control. Still, he suspects that he knows how to reign him in a bit. And so he follows Italy at a slower pace as the nation starts to jump the gun, waiting for his moment to put a word in edgewise, and when the time come he simply says, "Oh? You are attacking right avay? I thought that perhaps you might vant to vait until you've had a chance to hear the strategy I planned, vhere ve charge in heroically and crush our enemies. But if you vould rather stumble onto the battlefield like drunken pig, lose half your army and embarrass yourself in front of all of the Arab vomen, that is your choice." Figuring that will be a convincing point, he turns and starts to head toward the camp's headquarters, though of course if it isn't he'll have to curtail the Italian's newfound enthusiasm another way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 5:38:40 GMT -5
Sadly, it seemed like the German was not willing to negotiate how training could be done. The taller man's firm response annihilated any further deal that could possibly be made to reduce the strictness. How saddening but predictable to say the least.
To say Italy has blind faith in Germany was a common misconception. Italy admired Germany very much, his professionalism and efficiency were some qualities Italy wished he possessed, but to say that he had blind faith in the other nation wasn't so accurate. In the Second World War he may have seemed to have absolutely adored Germany however he in fact despised the other nation, for Italy he was too unpredictable, too commanding, too arrogant and he frequently broke agreements he made including with Italy himself. Nowadays, he still was a little wary of Germany, but he had changed so much from the thuggish ally he once knew, now he was a lot more patient and a lot more easier to trust and seemed a lot more caring... "Ve~ but in that war you were kind of an asshole, even I didn't like you, but you've changed so much since then!"
Italy hated being denied alcohol, nothing else went better with pasta... He was going to have to smuggle it on the journey. Italy was sure he could organize such a thing.
However hearing of the possibility of seeing Arabian women in every town Italy was not going to wait. He had to get to them before the war ended, he was almost shocked with Germany's suggestion to plan and attack. He couldn't just sit here he had to go! Italy was a qualified general anyway, he could figure out a plan or something on the way. Within a few minutes Italy's main battle tank: the C1 Ariete. Putting an Italian tank unit helmet on he looked at the German. "You shouldn't be so lazy Germany this is war!!! I'll figure out a plan on the way!!!! Don't be a coward!!!" Turning his back on the German he jumped onto the tank and went to enter the tank. They had to move! If they didn't then the Joint Pact would get to the women first! Meanwhile a large majority of the Italian forces in the camp were all ready to go, they now only waited for Italy to give the order to go... And he would do that once he got inside his tank.
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Post by Germany - Ludwig Wilhelm on Sept 1, 2016 18:14:30 GMT -5
It's actually very easy to overestimate how much Germany has changed since the second world war. He gets a lot of bad credit, and wrongly so, for a lot of things that are more rightly blamed upon his Boss at the time. Of course it's easy now to argue that he shouldn't have been listening to such a Boss, but at the time it really had seemed like it was the best thing to do for his people.
And he'd had many good traits back then and still does now that makes him a good friend, though it would be wrong to say that he hasn't changed either - and that change is more than simply being a bit more wary about putting too much of his own blind faith in his Boss. Most of that change centers around simply recognizing that he has a very strong personality and that he needs to be very careful about how he uses it - even if he can force other people to do what he wants doesn't mean that he should. Which isn't to say that he doesn't force people to do what he wants anymore, but he's careful to limit himself in that regard.
Another change is his level of self-control - his temper is also very powerful and losing it too often is not good for anyone. Which is why Italy's insult does not result in more than a frown and an unhappy, "Hmm..."
Italy's insistence of going off half-cocked on the other hand? That's something to lose his temper about! When his friend readies a tank instead of coming with him, to say that he's not amused is an understatement. Catching up with him just as he's about to enter the tank, Germany grabs the man by the shirt-collar. "YOU'RE calling ME LAZY and a COVARD?!?" he asks as he pulls him back, manhandling him off of the tank and then dragging him away from it and back towards the camp headquarters where he should have been going in the first place, "I have been managing the ENTIRE EUROPEAN FRONT LINE vhile you've been here SITTING ON YOUR ASS! You COULD have handled this MONTHS ago! And because you didn't, I had to come here, and so I AM IN CHARGE! And if you continue this INSUBORDINATION, I vill personally keep you so busy that you get NO FREE TIME!" That's another thing that has changed - the severity of the punishments that Germany is willing to hand out for this sort of misbehavior. They continue to be just as cruel, though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 5:20:28 GMT -5
To be honest Italy had been quite hypocritical when he had insulted Germany. He failed to recognize that he himself was just as bad as his friend during that time. He had betrayed members of his family for his Boss and he had betrayed old friends for his Boss, although his performance at times was quite shocking during the war, the intention to harm the people close to him was there in any case. While Germany and Japan had been blamed and shamed by the Allies, Italy's role seemed to have been forgotten completely. He even blatantly denied ever being apart of the Axis Powers to minor or young nations, however the countries that suffered under his tyranny didn't forget what he did to them and their people. The fact that he had never apologized for his wrong doing, eventually convinced him that he in fact had been a victim of Germany's imperialism. He wasn't exactly sure of what his friends or allies thought of his coincidental historical amnesia. It was not uncommon for Germany to use physical force to make Italy do something. This meant that the German was super angry. Italy yelped as Germany grabbed him and pulled him off the tank before dragging him towards the camp headquarters. Screaming the smaller man tried to break free from Germany but it was to no avail, the iron grip of the German forced him to suffer the harsh realities of Germany's arrival... Each time the German yelled at Italy it sent shock waves into the Italian's mind. Germany was in charge? ?? GERMANY WAS IN CHARGE? Not even the front line would be as brutal... Wait? No free time??? Where was Germany dragging him to anyway? Struggling to turn his head he saw where they were heading. Where meetings and strategy were talked... Camp Headquarters... "AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Meetings with Germany involving strategy were the worst! They went for hours, were always serious, he could barely get away with flirting in World Conference meetings! Seeing this made the Italian struggle more. "PLEASE GERMANY HAVE MERCY!!!!!!! I HATE WAR MEETINGS, THEY GO FOR SO LONG AND ARE BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAHHHHHHHHH! LET ME GO!!!! I SURRENDER! I SURRENDER! I SURRENDER! wait no that would be bad... I REQUEST LEAVE! I REQUEST LEAVE!I REQUEST LEAVE!I REQUEST LEAVE!I REQUEST LEAVE!" Hopefully the German still had a soul...
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Post by Germany - Ludwig Wilhelm on Sept 5, 2016 16:44:29 GMT -5
If anyone is going to call out Italy on his past, it's not going to be Germany. Or at least it's unlikely, anyway - he's far too aware of his own past to feel like he has any room to speak about that. Perhaps in a moment of anger he would do so if the Italian were to outright accuse him of wrongdoing while claiming that his own hands were completely clean, but when you simply tell him that he was a bad nation during the last world war he simply feels guilty. And since Germany almost never ceases to feel guilty, that doesn't really do much.
In fact, that guilt is enough to make him hesitate to use physical force as much as he would have in the past, even against Italy. However, one thing that has not changed is that the Italian is regularily a stubborn fool in the face of all reason and Germany has little choice but to use force. If there was a better way of getting what he needs from his friend he would take it, but in spite of the long history between them he hasn't found an alternative.
Ignoring Italy's complaints, Germany responds to the request by snapping, "Request denied! You vill attend this meeting, you vill pay attention and participate, and you vill do everything ve plan out. Othervise I vill be forced to conclude that I have been too soft on you and ve vill use your free time for training." Fortunately, there's a stark difference between their physiques, and while hauling Italy around is an annoying chore it's not that difficult, even when he struggles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 1:33:42 GMT -5
Hearing the threat of free time becoming training time, Italy whimpered and stopped struggling. Germany was now in control of everything and their was nothing he could do. He hated the fact that in spite of all his struggling the German still dragged him more or less at the same pace. He was completely powerless to stop the meeting in his own camp. Loudly groaning he let himself get dragged to the Camp Headquarters, with some confused Italian soldiers staring as a muscly, blond German soldier was hauling a scrawny, brunette Italian soldier.
Most nations would ask, why was Italy friends with Germany. Indeed it was an odd friendship. Nations usually viewed Germany as a serious, strong, no nonsense, hardworking and capable nation. North Italy, on the surface was often viewed as a cheerful, weak, idiot who seemed to thrive off doing nothing. Of course these were only first impressions, in reality Italy was neither weak nor stupid, his personality and behavior made him seem like this however, which often or not led to others seriously underestimate or just plainly not trust him anything. Even though he was hardworking, saying that Italy wan't a complete loose canon wouldn't be true, so how were Germany and Italy good friends? Was it past history? Was it Italy blackmailing Germany?
Indeed, at times Italy always wondered how he was friends with one of the most serious nations in the world. He wasn't completely lazy, but Germany had some really high standards when it came to work. To be honest Italy realized the two of them were practically polar opposites. To Italy, Germany was a good role model that he wanted to strive up to (when he feels like it), the German could also get jobs done well and fairly quickly. Surely Italy wasn't the only nation whom admired Germany, there were probably many more nations that would easily befriend Germany and not completely annoy him all the time. So why was Germany friends with Italy?
Finally Italy's humiliating drag of shame was over, they were in Camp Headquarters... When they were inside the building, Italy intensely frightened that free time would become training time quietly asked the German in a small voice: "G-Germany I'm sorry, can you let me go now?"
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Post by Germany - Ludwig Wilhelm on Sept 11, 2016 4:41:30 GMT -5
Being friends with Germany isn't all bad - yes, he's serious and gruff but he's also extremely loyal and tries his best to be fair. No matter what Italy does, no matter what sort of mess he's gotten himself into, no matter how much it's his own fault, Germany will not abandon his friendship and will do what's necessary to help make sure that it turns out right again. And he's more capable than most at doing just that - Germany is a nation of many talents, after all.
Which isn't to say that Italy isn't talented in his own right - it's just that his talents are quite different than Germany's. And in fact, though of course he would never say so out loud, this is what he admires most about Italy - the man simply thinks completely differently. Which is obviously a frustration a lot of the time, but every once in a while Italy will do something completely brilliant. Things like putting water jets into a bathtub - Germany has to admit that he would never have come up with that one. He's known for improving designs and making them more efficient than he is for inventing totally new things, and when he does they're usually completely practical things. There's nothing practical about water jets in a bathtub, but they make life better!
But that's not the only reason why he's friends with Italy, and the other main one goes all the way to the beginnings of their friendship. Italy had decided that they were friends back in a day when Germany really needed one - he'd not taken the reigns from his brother Prussia for very long and had found himself without very many people to turn to. Prussia isn't exactly the most diplomatic person in the world, and that had meant that other nations weren't very quick to want to become actual friends with his little brother either. Italy, though, had volunteered, and Germany has never forgotten. And yes, Japan had joined them not that long after, but Italy had been the first and he's never forgotten that.
When they reach the camp headquarters, he hears Italy's timid plea for release. He'd feel sorry for treating him so harshly except that Italy should know by now he should listen to Germany in all matters relating to war. Well, except for that time when Germany decided that the second world war was necessary - he shouldn't have listened to that - but he's usually right about these things. "If I let you go are you going to make a break for it?" he asks suspiciously, because he wouldn't put it past Italy to do exactly that - and he'd really rather not have to chase him down. Italy runs away from things very, very quickly after all! But if his friend promises that he's not going to run then he'll let him go and see if he keeps his word.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2016 6:07:14 GMT -5
For Italy the thought of running had not even occurred to him. If he had wanted to escape the German would be tracking his jeep down. He hadn't even been able to run off properly, he never did anything right! No, in the space of only a few hours Germany had taken charge, Italy would just have to do what the German said now, or else... Running from Germany at this point would be suicide. He had faked a nuclear attack, attempted to escape and then attempted to launch an attack on the enemy without Germany's approval... The supply of Italy's pasta, alcohol and free time were hanging on a knife edge. Italy practically lost all the motivation he had previously to attack the Joint Pact and was now quite fearful of the consequences of doing something wrong, how could you see ladies while running laps on a track?
Looking up at the taller man, Italy replied: "N-no, I will not run away and I w-will do what you say." There was no reason to make the German even more angrier, after the meeting Italy would go to bed if possible... He had had a terrible day. To be honest why was Italy even participating in the meeting? He had shown he was inept of command due to him loafing around in Syria. In fact the only offensive he had actually launched was a counter offensive to drive the Joint Pact out of Israel, both sides were in the Middle of Syria practically doing nothing. Italy had turned this war into a static one, so he may as well hand the command of his Italian troops to Germany while either relocating to Italy or oversee control of the Mediterranean. "So you don't have to w-worry about me, doing anything stupid" He looked down flushing, this was humiliating.
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Post by Germany - Ludwig Wilhelm on Sept 16, 2016 7:19:29 GMT -5
Italy is exactly right that Germany would track him down - the man is known for being incredibly stubborn, after all. That doesn't mean that Italy hasn't tried a number of times, but it saves him a lot of time and pain if he simply gives up and does what the German wants. Especially now - while Germany can be quite patient, Italy of all people should recognize when he's run out of it. If the Italian tries to push him much more, Germany will most likely live up to each and every threat that he's made today.
But the German equally knows how to recognize when his friend has been thoroughly cowed and will no longer offer up any more resistance. Which actually makes a part of him a little bit sad, though he would never admit it - he doesn't like to force Italy to do what he wants. He would much rather simply talk the man into doing things - that's so much more pleasant! In fact, if he'd had enough time he probably still would have done so, but realistically that might have taken a very long time - way more time than he has. He needs to get this offensive going solidly so that he can return to Europe as soon as possible.
So when Italy says that he won't run, Germany gives a satisfied grunt and lets the man go. "Good, because I need you to pay attention. They need me on the European Front - I can't stay here forever. I can be here long enough to get the offensive started and see it through the beginning stages until it can get some momentum, but you are the one vho needs to keep it going vhen I leave. I vill be leaving a couple of my best generals to help advise you, and of course check in on you vhen I can, but my focus vill need to be on the European front," he explains.
Because unlike so many other nations, Germany knows what Italy is capable of. Yes his friend is lazy, and makes a lot of erratic decisions, but if he takes care of the hard part of getting it all started then Italy should be able to keep it going. Especially since the generals he's leaving behind are not there merely to offer advice but to also keep an eye on everything and inform him if and when he needs to come back and kick his friend's butt back into gear. Though he's hopeful that the Italian will be able to step up to the plate and maybe even do something well enough that the other nations recognize it and give the man the respect that he deserves. He's tired of everyone wondering why someone so focused on performance like him is friends with the Italian.
Having said that, he now turns his attention to the other men in the room. Who are no doubt wondering why a German general hauled an Italian general into the meeting, but his men know better than to ask him any questions and he doesn't give them any answers. Instead he asks, "Are ve ready to begin?"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 1:57:06 GMT -5
Italy felt so down at that moment, he had next to no motivation to fight or do anything, in fact he was miserable. So miserable, that he felt he had no energy to go through with the meeting, the fact Germany wanted him to contribute to the meeting as well also disturbed Italy. What was Germany even expecting? Italy to formulate a plan? It would be shot before he even named the operation.
When this meeting ended, Italy would go to the nearby town the base was defending and drink his sorrows away... Unless the German followed him everywhere, then he'd just stay in his quarters and speak with Romano via social media. His brother was probably doing something better than he was.
When Germany told him that the European front was calling to him and that German generals would be "assisting him", Italy staring at his boots glumly replied: "Si." They then convened at the meeting table, where the Germans sat on one side, while the Italians sat at the other. Italy was sitting right in front of the his friend, so sleeping wasn't possible nor walking out of the meeting. Staring at the table, Italy got ready for what the German side of the table had to say.
Obviously something about him not doing enough or some form of criticism on that subject. In a small voice the Italian answered his friend: "Si, lets start."
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Post by Germany - Ludwig Wilhelm on Sept 21, 2016 22:29:25 GMT -5
Does Germany expect Italy to come up with a plan? No, of course not! Though that's not because he believes that his friend is incapable, but because he knows who is better at what. If the goal was to plan out a relaxing evening of course he'd step aside, but they're planning a war offensive so of course he's taking the lead here.
But perhaps it may come as a surprise to the Italian that Germany refrains from mentioning the previous lack of progress on this front except in passing - instead he focuses his remarks entirely upon his planned offensive. Specifically, he speaks of how their enemy will not be expecting them to suddenly spring into action - they will be caught off guard, and so it should be very easy to make rapid progress until their enemies have enough time to respond to the change. So they should take as much advantage of the situation as possible, charging forward as fast as possible until they run into some real resistance - at that point they'll need to dig in and stubbornly hold on to all of the land that they gained.
Of course, there's a lot of logistical problems with this strategy - in fact, the German strongly warns that it's very important that they don't charge ahead too fast - then the army will be so far ahead of their supplies that they won't have enough. And as they surge forward they will need to keep their forces very coordinated so that small pieces of the army don't get too far ahead of the rest - that will make them vulnerable. Though of course he has a number of ideas about how to keep everything running smoothly - in fact, he doesn't bother to go over that aspect in detail because it will take too long. Instead he simply states that it will all be coordinated nicely and expects everyone to believe him when he says so - he's Germany, after all.
Once he's finished outlining this strategy, he glances at the assembled generals to see if there's any questions. His own men are nodding to themselves, but then again this is a recap for them - they've already heard this. What matters more is what the Italians think.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 3:02:16 GMT -5
Did Italy expect Germany to come up with a better plan than his? No, of course not! Italy should be in control of his own front while Germany takes care of Europe. Germany had only been in the camp in a few hours and Italy was already wrestling with his best friend to plan the best way of attack against the Joint Pact. Yeah, so Italy hadn't exactly been proactive but the brunette was sure he could figure something out. During the course of the Second World War, the Germans made ridiculously stupid mistakes! Italy wasn't just going let his friend kick him around the way he wanted. He was in control of this campaign, not Germany! However, maybe his friend had a good plan coming.
It was worse than Italy feared... Rapid progress? Charging forward? This plan Germany suggested was nearly the exact same strategy used by Erwin "The Desert Fox" Rommel. If Italy could recall, Rommel had been a great tactician but was terrible at logistics. In fact, when they were planning to invade Egypt a second time, an Italian general told Rommel that the invasion would be doomed to fail due to the lack of resources... He didn't listen and only a few months later the Axis were kicked out of North Africa.
While the Germans were nodding, Italy's own men were giving quizzical looks about the plan. It was too... Risky. "Eh Germany, I think this plan is better than yours."
Italy was trying to suggest in a nice way his own plan. A push against the Joint Pact, they would surely catch the enemy by surprise and throw them out of Syria completely. Then Italy would return to wait for another 7 months, this could tie up Joint Pact troops trying to counterattack his forces, helping the European Front line have less enemies to deal with.
At this the Italian generals nodded and seemed to understand better. Although, what Germany and his men thought could make things a little more awkward than intended. "This could really help you in Europe."
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Post by Germany - Ludwig Wilhelm on Sept 27, 2016 0:45:52 GMT -5
The reaction of the Italian generals is not what Germany hoped for - they don't look convinced. Which means that he's not surprised when Italy then speaks of his own plan of attack. To his credit, he listens to the explanation of it very carefully, though there's the slightest of frowns on his face the entire time - he's clearly dissatisfied with it. But Italy actually stayed awake and paid attention to his own plan, so he deserves as much from him in return. Still, when the Italian is through he speaks his thoughts.
"Yes your plan vould undoubtedly help Europe," he states first, but adds, "But hov much? That is the problem. I vould like to remind all of you that Italy is in Europe - and is in just as much danger as every other nation there. And the harder ve push here, the larger the problem ve vill cause to the Joint Pact, and the safer Italy and the rest of Europe vill be. Of course it von't help Europe very much if ve overextend ourselves and make ourselves easy to defeat, but I think that ve all can agree that as long as ve don't do that ve should push the front line as far as possible - then ve vill cause the Joint Pact the most amount of trouble possible."
Pausing to consider for a moment, he adds, "Perhaps it vould help if I fully explained my plans for keeping the army vell-supplied during the surge forvard?" Because he'd skipped over that part before - he can go into detail if that would help him explain his case. Though the reason why he skipped over it to begin with is because it's really dry and technical stuff - he figures that the Italians would rather do nearly anything else besides listen to it, and he's also concerned about expecting too much of their attention span. "I assure you, I've looked at the numbers quite thoroughly and my plan does vork," he adds, hoping that they'll just trust him instead of asking for more of the fine print in order to be convinced.
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